Friday, March 11, 2016

Hillary Clinton Sticks Foot in Mouth on Reagans and AIDS, QuicklyApologizes


I, like so many other people, was appalled when Hillary Clinton -- completely unprompted -- praised the Reagans, "particularly Nancy" for helping to "start a national conversation about HIV and AIDS." I know it was Nancy's funeral today -- not the day to pile on the woman -- but it's never the day to whitewash history. Glad Mrs. Clinton quickly apologized for her complete mischaracterization of the facts. Now let's move on.


From my friend John Perez, former California Assembly speaker:


"Women's liberation and gay liberation are part of the same thing: a weakening of the moral standards of this nation. It is appalling to see parades in San Francisco and elsewhere claiming 'gay pride' and all that. What in the world do they have to be proud of?"-- Nancy Reagan in 1981


UPDATE: Yep. And if you know anything about politics then you know this whole "calculation" theory makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. Read HERE.

12 comments:

Damian said...

This is one of those times where I wish she had been more of the "calculating" politician that people enjoy accusing her of being!

Dwight Williamson said...

I would love for all the media to be criticizing Ronald Reagan instead of Hillary Clinton. Quiet history says Reagan was a homophobe, Nancy tried to soften him to no avail. I wonder about those "saying" they are Hill supporters, but being willing to stick the next dagger in her back.
Why aren't all these same people incensed over her treatment at the last few democratic debates. Why do they throw a national holiday when Bernie takes a shit? Keep it up guys and you'll have Trump in your living room for the next 4-8 years!

Mike c said...

It's hard to "just move on" when you know her original comments were deliberate and calculated, an attempt to triangulate and appeal towards the center/right for November. Yes, she apologized, immediately. Because we called her on her shit. And _only_ because we called her on it.

Sandy said...

@Mike C: And Bernie Sanders sang Fidel Casto's praises and HASN'T apologized for it -- what are ya gonna do?

Mike D said...

To what @Mike c is saying -- It's the perception that this was calculate is a large part of why people are reacting so strongly. This isn't the first time she's taken an action or made a statement that feels more like pandering than expressing a real opinion or policy position.

@Sandy: I think that's a false equivalency, but a quick Google shows that people are glad to smear him any way they can.

T_Pezz said...

@Sandy We aren't talking about Bernie. We're talking about Hillary and a statement she made and why people are angry with her.

Sandy said...

@T_Pezz: And I'm talking about asking yourself why you're so quick to jump all over the female candidate, and willing to let the man slide, bitch.

T_Pezz said...

@Sandy Because Bernie didn't make something up out of whole cloth in order to pander to the moderates of the opposite party. I agree there is a lot of sexism towards Hillary, but this is not that situation and if you keep saying things like that, it weakens the overall discussion about the campaign and of feminism in general.

As for name calling, grow up. If you can't have a discussion without insulting people maybe you need to take a step away from the computer.

northalabama said...

hillary stepped in it, then immediately stopped walking, backed up, and washed her shoes. i have no issues forgiving her, and she did apologize.

to be honest, hillary is only one of the vast majority alive in the early eighties and removed from the gay community that have no clue what was going on politically at the time, or how most of us living were repeatedly watching multiple gruesome deaths while our government remained silent, seemingly happily so. she knows now...

Sandy said...

@T_Pezz: The argument that she was trolling for moderates makes absolutely no sense. Moderate Republicans -- including Reagan Democrats (if there's such a thing beyond Christie Todd Whitman) -- don't give a fuck about AIDS, and there were dozens of other ways to troll for those votes without infuriating one of her MAIN core constituencies. It's ridiculous.

The real issue here is that Hillary Clinton is a horrible candidate who would make a great policy manager.

But as far as this moronic conspiracy theory goes, she's a former first lady who said something very stupid while trying to be nice to another former first lady WHO HAD JUST DIED.

T_Pezz said...

@Sandy What makes absolutely no sense is the absurd comment Hillary made. She was wrong. However, she just released a solid statement that really gets to the point and shows me that she gets it so the argument is moot.

However, you really should think twice about calling people "bitch" in the same sentence you attempt to lecture them on feminism. It's not a good look. Really you should think twice about calling anyone bitch. it's gendered and shitty. I don't care how long gay men have been saying it to one another, it makes women feel bad so it's time to cut the word out of our vocabulary.

Sandy said...

@T_Pezz: What's not moot is that you and the other conspiracy theorists made up something completely nonsensical because you hold Clinton to a standard no other politician has ever been held to in the history if politics. (Why might that be?)

And now you're trying to dictate what a woman can and cannot say? You really don't get it, do you, honey?

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