Showing posts with label Kevin Spacey. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Kevin Spacey. Show all posts

Friday, May 24, 2024

A Kevin Spacey Mark Reacts to ‘Unmasked’ Documentary


I tried to watch "Spacey Unmasked" on Max but had a hard time keeping a straight face: A guy jerks off in front of you and your response is to keep hanging out with him if the situation sounds like a chance to move up the Hollywood ladder -- and now you claim you were traumatized?!!!!

A day later I heard from an old friend of mine who experienced Kevin Spacey’s aggressive antics firsthand(sy) when we both lived in Los Angeles in the early ‘90s. He had this to say after watching the documentary: 
"Spacey Unmasked" is good. But highly disappointing to learn that I was one of hundreds…crazy. It turns out that his modus operandi was forcing himself on people in semi public places. Who knew?

Before adding this about the men who say they felt violated but opted to stay in Spacey's orbit:

Everyone wanted something. ... I think they knew exactly what they were doing and because it didn't work out they were made -- but it doesn't raise to the level of [beyond-a-reasonable-doubt] illegal. And some of them are just outright crazy. 
I’m pissed because it was a small and fun celebrity encounter -- and turns out he did that all the time! Hahaha!!! 



But to me, the histrionic reaction to his alleged boorish behavior -- which heterosexual men, famous and unfamous, get away with constantly -- strikes me as a bit much, almost suspiciously disproportionate, given the fact that no actual harm was done to anyone. Sorry, gents: Having another man grab your ass isn't the end of the world -- and you're not owed anything because someone famous didn't help advance your career. 

Producers have every right to not hire Spacey. But these endless legal proceedings are as ridiculous as they are opportunistic. 

I've said it before but I'll say it again: I'm a big believer in the "ladies first” doctrine when it comes to the #MeToo movement. Women face a physical threat when things like this happen to them, which can escalate from a "friendly" pat to something violent in a heartbeat. Men don't. 

And if these grown men did experience discomfort, why are they returning for more? These aren't Boy Scouts who were too afraid to speak up so went back to troop meetings or altar boys who can’t bring themselves to explain why they no longer want to go to church. These are adults who are voluntarily choosing to continue to spend time with this man. 

(ADDENDUM: As I said in the opening paragraph, I couldn’t even get through the first half of this. A commenter has pointed out that some of the accusations are related to on-set behavior. That’s very different than opting to spend free time with Spacey, and I agree that all people should be allowed to work in peace. But I also think it’s no longer happening to these men and doesn’t rise to the level of lawsuits, which, again, are better left to women who should remain the focus of #MeToo.)


As a Facebook friend put it: I was amazed at how much the straight (?) dudes were willing to go along with just for the dim hope of getting a screenplay read or a chance to collaborate with Spacey.

And even his alleged minor victim -- who as a working Broadway actor in 1986 was hardly a typical teen -- concedes nothing happened to him beyond (alleged) momentary awkwardness, which is probably why none of the cases against Spacey have succeeded. (The jury hearing about the 1986 allegation cleared him in just over an hour.)

Sharon Stone homed in on what I was thinking, saying:
It was clear aspiring actors wanted and want to be around him. It’s terrible that they are blaming him for not being able to come to terms with themselves for using him and negotiating with themselves because they didn’t get their secret agendas.
To which my "harassed" friend, who himself dabbled in acting back in the day. said: 
She nailed it. 

Before wistfully adding: 

And plus the interesting [period]. About not being able to be gay in Hollywood at the time, believe me, I know that one well.
Indeed he does, having been cast in a major motion picture before being replaced after a week's filming when the producers decided he seemed "too gay" in the dailies. 

My friend never acted again but went on to have a successful career in and away from La La Land. Spacey won two Academy Awards before his actions finally caught up to him and cost him his career. Life frequently isn't fair, but sometimes things do have a way of evening out -- no courts required.


UPDATE: My friend just read this post and sent the following message to me:

It’s an interesting take on the situation and I think it’s good to be talked about [and] written about. But even the first comment/response uses [the term] "sexual predator," and I think that should be reserved for someone who uses violence or illegal tactics. Yes, Spacey was aggressive, but I chalked it up to him just being a randy famous overly sexual actor. But with my history….

Thursday, January 02, 2020

Page 1 Roundup (01/02)





















Friday, November 10, 2017

Rocker Kathy Valentine on the #MeToo Fallout


I'm a fan and friend. But I would love this perspective even if I weren't:
People sure are complicated and fucked up, and we all have to make judgments: do we go see Woody Allen's latest, do we watch the Casey Affleck movie? Harvey W was a bigger-than-life character, with an eye for talent and stories, but also a predatory blowhard scumbag. Kevin Spacey, brilliant, but wtf?? Miles Davis being a mean jerk never stopped me from swooning over his music. Chuck Berry illegally watching girls pee didn't stop him from ruling. Masturbators and humpers and rapists and gropers --all the entitled assholes with money and power who think they can do anything and get away with it. But it's been happening all along. Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski, all the politicians Dem and GOP. Phil Spector tormenting women and artists he worked with, Ike Turner. Not to mention the murderers, OJ, Robert Blake. The thing to celebrate here is that women and other victims are pulling back the curtain. They are empowered, and every voice that speaks up gives them more power. I'm not into an internet lynch mob pile-on for any of these guys who are being called out, but if careers and life work are collateral damage for a shift in consciousness about what is decent, human rights stuff behavior, so be it.

Related: Megan "The Inoffensive Comedian" Koester writes that she tried to break the Louis C.K. story and it nearly killed her career

Thursday, November 09, 2017

Required Reading


Of course, some people think these boys need to just "suck it up once in a while."

Friday, November 03, 2017

She Said, But Then He Said ...


Great insight from my pal Michael Goff, whom I (jokingly) labeled a "Spacey apologist" for having more to say about the situation than "KEVIN SPACEY BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Michael Goff
Wow, things sure seem to move faster when a man or men do the accusing--even a gay man or men, it seems. A few possible reasons...
A. HE'S A MONSTER Spacey is clearly awful and this is a long time coming, but it takes a lot of women a lot longer when they come forward to answer all the questions no one is asking these men.
B. HOMO PANIC Maybe they've moved quickly because as men themselves, it's homosexual panic and there are a bunch of men scared that they might be attacked and, uh...treated like they treat women, or think about treating women? It's the root of a lot of homophobia.
C. COMPLICIT Maybe this is happening so quickly because so many involved have known this to be true with Spacey, and didn't care until it went public like this because it is man on man.
D. CONSPIRATOR Or maybe they are guilty of the same things at the same parties and are concern trolling to throw off the dogs. Or at the very least many of these folks are entirely complicit.
If i had heard talk of this than many people who are actually close to or part of it all knew more.
Frankly in the gay demimonde, with males being are allowed agency and initiative when it comes to sexual prowess, along with the many damaged men of all ages, i would say that --while still a small number and not likely in the Spacey case -- that some of these cases might end up less clear with more blurred power and consent.
I don't question the men accusing Kevin Spacey. I don't question the complexity of any of it. But how can anyone not notice that this has played out differently and it sure seems like women have to do a whole lot more to be believed and taken seriously.


Read the Towleroad piece HERE.

Thursday, November 02, 2017

Remains of the Day (11/02)


Back2Stonewall: Georgian soccer star called on to resign from national team for wearing rainbow captain's band

Evening Standard: Madonna spotted flying coach

D-Listed: Kellan Lutz has a no-nudity clause -- but he has no problem showing off his tits

Vulture: Man says he was 14 when he had a sexual relationship with Kevin Spacey

Money: "House of Cards" employees allege sexual harassment, sexual assault by Kevin Spacey


Jezebel: Sure sounds like trans activist/filmmaker Reina Gossett owes David France an apology for her discredited allegations about his Marsha P. Johnson documentary

The New York Times: Greta Gerwig's "Lady Bird" is big-screen perfection

The Guardian: Australian man raped, murdered by three men he met through Airbnb

The Hard Times: Morrissey accused of asexual harassment


OMG Blog: Win the new box set of "The Queen Is Dead" by the Smiths

Greg in Hollywood: What's more stunning, Fabian Rios's body or his face?

JoeMyGod: House Democrats release Russian Facebook ads

The Washington Blade: Russia sought to influence LGBT voters with "Buff Bernie" ad


The Film Experience: LAFCA honors Max von Sydow with career achievement award

Hunk du Jour: Could that T-shirt be any tighter, sir?

The Wall Street Journal: Prosecutors consider charging Russian officials in DNC hacking case

The New York Times: Billionaire owner shuts down DNAinfo and Gothamist a week after journalists unionize


Gr8er Days: What's a Rose Marie? A review of "Wait for Your Laugh"

Matthew's Island of Misfit Toys: Sexiest silver daddy ever?

Boy Culture: "You can't be a gay without a mustache these days."


Towleroad: The Three Gay Bears are back to sell more honey

Tennis Life: No Vika as Fed Cup final rosters unveiled

The Hollywood Reporter: In 1974, an A-list cast boarded the "Orient Express"


Sporting News: Papa John's CEO blames NFL kneeling for sales dropoff; social media blames the pizza

HuffPost: Trump always has the dumbest take on everything

The Daily News: Twitter homepage greets users with tweet calling Chrissy Teigen a "whore"


Kitty of the Day: 

That's my high-school friend Yuki's new cat (Tiny Baby) and her newish hubby (Terry)

Wednesday, November 01, 2017

More Men Accuse Kevin Spacey of Sexual Misconduct -- UPDATE


Not surprisingly, more men have come forward accusing Kevin Spacey of inappropriate sexual behavior. The guy's obviously got a problem and like with Anthony Rapp, I'm glad people feel comfortable to finally call him out. For those who are unclear about my thoughts, I have NEVER set out to defend Spacey in any way or tried to minimize anything he is said to have done to Rapp. I merely said it seemed counterproductive to excoriate him when he was not denying the incident or trashing the accuser -- a la Donald Trump -- and actually acknowledging he probably did do it/apologizing while finally coming out of the closet. I get that outrage over what he's alleged to have done is very much warranted. But critiquing people's apologies has always seemed pointless to me, even since my mom would force me to apologize and then reply: "You don't sound like you're sorry."

(NEWS FLASH FROM OUTSIDE THE GAY BUBBLE: Many of my work colleagues had no idea Spacey was gay and none of them conflated his coming out with preying on underage boys. People who conflate the two already think all gay people are pedophiles to begin with, so it's not worth trying to reason through.)

If you think his coming out when he did was wrong, that's fine. But I vividly remember Billie Jean King being sued for palimony by a former female lover and watching her press conference on national television listening to her STILL NOT COME OUT as she was acknowledging the affair.  For a closeted teen it felt like emotional blue balls. And to make matters worse, she opted to later trash the woman in court. Rather than acknowledge that she was gay, she and her legal team portrayed Marilyn Barnett as a "predatory lesbian" who was trying to destroy King's happy (straight!) home with hubby Larry, while Billie Jean was actually already with another woman at the time. (You can accuse Spacey of hiding behind the rainbow flag, but Billie Jean King took a lengthy piss on it.) This left a very bad taste in my mouth -- King didn't officially come out until 1998 -- so I happen to think, as bad as the timing may seem to some, it was better for Spacey to get it all out now when he so easily could have denied the whole thing or said "the young man must have misunderstood" something. He did nothing of the sort. You don't have to agree with me, but don't twist my words or try to tell me I haven't thought this through properly. I have. As to another point that many have misconstrued -- the "pedophilia" aspect -- all of these new accusers so far have been of age (barely), which bolsters my original thought that I felt that term "pedophile" was being thrown around loosely. (Liking "young guys" and being a "pedophile" are not necessary interchangeable -- and coming on to one 14-year-old is not the same as behaving inappropriately with a 4-year-old.) Yes, what he did to Rapp was wrong -- and possibly actionable at the time -- but I was simply trying to put things in context and thus far my suspicions have mostly panned out. 


What this whole thing reminds me of is O.J. Simpson going to jail for stealing memorabilia instead of murder. I don't know much about Kevin Spacey. But I've recently gathered he's said and done many horrible things over the years (not even counting what he allegedly did to Rapp) while not acknowledging his sexuality, so it seems like no matter how he'd handle his coming out, LGBTQ people were prepared to trash him. I wasn't coming from that angle, but I get that many are.


I think it's also important to be mindful of pack-mentality thinking. Because my original post about Spacey didn't just say KEVIN SPACEY BAD MAN, I've been labeled a "Spacey apologist" by ... my fellow liberals. (Huh?) What separates the left from the right has always been our ability to think critically. But I feel like so many of us are so eager to come across as "woke" (aka morally superior) that we have stopped listening to what is actually being said. (The second something veers from the talking points it's off the races, as my inbox full of insults and attacks will attest to.) Not thinking isn't something we want to pattern ourselves after Republicans. What we DO need to do is emulate the GOP at the ballot box. Instead of dwelling on the fine print -- thinking too much -- we need to WIN elections and then push our candidates to do better. Sadly, we seem to have this backward and I fear it's only going to get worse.

UPDATE: A man has come forward to say he was 14 when he had a "consensual" sexual relationship with Spacey. (He now realizes there's no such thing as a 14-year-old giving consent with an adult.) I still say sexual attraction to 14-year-olds and 4-year-olds is different. But when 14-year-olds are your pattern, you're obviously a very sick man.

You can join the conversation on Facebook by adding me HERE.

Monday, October 30, 2017

Let's All Say It Together: 'Kevin Spacey Deserves to Die'


OK, I'm in the mood for a new asshole -- so let me have it. I have no appreciation for Kevin Spacey the actor -- I can only think of one film of his I've seen, which was nearly 20 years ago ("American Beauty") -- so I'm certainly not defending him as a fan.

I know he's a tiresome closeted queen and all of the negative consequences of that. But given this history, I feel like the attack on his belated coming out is another case of virtue signaling. (Yeah, we GET IT. He shouldn't have hit on a 14-year-old and should have come out sooner. YOU’RE REALLY NOT THAT BRAVE for saying that.) Given the circumstances, he had NO CHOICE but to address his sexuality because the allegation against him essentially outed him. Would it have been better if he'd still denied being gay while acknowledging responsibility for something he admits he probably did?

(My boyfriend PRAISED him for coming out now -- thinking he would dodge the issue again by pretending Anthony Rapp had "misconstrued" something he did. He didn't do that.)

Also, I'm a little concerned with the casual use of the term "pedophile." The high and mighty can call sex -- or in this case attempted sex -- with a 14-year-old pedophilia all they want. But anyone with a brain knows it really means sexual attraction to prepubescent children. The age of consent in many countries around the globe is 14 -- are you ready to call parts of the world "pedophile states"? -- and 14-year-olds can MARRY in the U.S. with parental consent. (So every straight guy who got turned on by Britney Spears's "Hit Me Baby One More Time" is a pedophile too, right?)

What's more, Kevin Spacey is 12 years older than Anthony Rapp, which means he was 25 or 26 when the alleged incident occurred, not 55. (My parents were 17 and 26 when my mom got pregnant with my oldest brother.) From what little I've read, I gather Rapp was at "theater business" party at someone's house. Do we know if Spacey knew how old Rapp was? And where the hell were Rapp's parents/agent/publicist to keep an eye on a CHILD at an adult party? (Spacey is the only one to blame here, but my sister wouldn't let my 14-year-old nephew go to adult parties by himself, so I ask out of concern for a minor.)

As for the notion that he is "conflating" pedophilia with homosexuality, nothing Spacey said does that. The people who choose to conflate the two already think all gays people are pedophiles, so there's not really anything we can do about that.

Spacey obviously made a mistake (and is rumored to have made many others since). But what's the value in piling on when he's tried to accept responsibility?


The debate is really heating up on my Facebook page. To join the conversation, add me HERE.

UPDATE: I've done little reading on this, but it's come to my attention that some people are actually blaming Anthony Rapp in some way. (I certainly am not and think anyone who does is vile.) But what is the incentive for people to not pull a Trump / trash accusers if they are going to be equally vilified either way? If it turns out he's done something like this -- with a minor -- more than once, then I'll be singing a different tune. But for now it just feels like proportionality is dead.

UPDATE 2: Not surprisingly, more men have come forward accusing Spacey of inappropriate behavior. The guy's obviously got a problem and like with Rapp, I'm glad people are calling him out. Unlike Rapp, these accusers so far are all of age, which bolsters my original thought that I felt that term "pedophile" was being thrown around loosely. For those who are unable to read or think, I have NEVER defended or tried to minimize anything Spacey did to Rapp. I merely said it seemed counterproductive to trash Spacey for both acknowledging he probably did behave grossly inappropriately with Rapp and for him to -- in a separate paragraph and thought from the apology -- to finally come out of the closet. If you think his coming out when he did was wrong, you're entitled to your opinion. But I vividly remember Billie Jean King being sued for palimony by a former female lover and watched her STILL NOT COME OUT -- instead opting to trash the woman in court, portraying her as a "predatory lesbian" who was trying to destroy King's happy (straight!) home with hubby Larry while Billie Jean was actually already with another woman at the time. This left a very bad taste in my mouth -- King didn't officially come out until 1998 -- so I happen to think it was better for Spacey to get it all out now. You don't have to agree with me.

UPDATE 3: Among the many new people to come forward since Rapp's story broke is a guy who says he was 14 when he had a "consensual" sexual relationship with Spacey. (He now realizes there's no such thing as a 14-year-old giving consent with an adult.) I still think sexual attraction to 14-year-olds and 4-year-olds is different. But when 14-year-olds are your pattern, you're obviously a very sick man.